Radio Interview with ABC Radio Canberra on APS Recruitment Game launch day – 11/5/26

This conversation aired on ABC Radio Canberra on 11 May 2026 following the launch of The APS Recruitment Game. In the interview with Alice Matthews, Brendon Le Lievre explores what selection panels are really looking for, why capable applicants often struggle in recruitment processes, and how candidates can communicate their experience more effectively.

The discussion draws on more than a decade of experience supporting APS recruitment processes, including chairing panels, supporting hiring managers, and participating in hundreds of interviews as an external scribe.

“There’s rules, and often people don’t have the opportunity to learn them.”

Listening Guide

• Why strong candidates often miss out on APS roles
• What panels are actually looking for during interviews
• The “I and we seesaw” technique for stronger responses
• How applicants can move from guesswork into framework
• Why understanding the organisation matters as much as capability
• How automated screening and application filtering may influence recruitment outcomes

A central theme of the conversation is that APS recruitment has patterns, expectations, and language that are often unfamiliar to applicants, particularly those entering from outside the public service. The interview explores practical ways candidates can better explain their experience without changing who they are.

“Moving from guesswork into framework is a really good way to do that.”

One of the practical ideas discussed in the interview is the “I and we seesaw”, a simple technique for balancing personal contribution with team outcomes when answering interview questions. This helps panels understand both individual capability and collaborative impact.

“I set the culture and the team were able to perform. I gave the feedback and results improved because the team were able to do what they meant to do.”

The conversation also explores one of the most common issues seen in APS recruitment, applicants failing to clearly connect their experience to the role or organisation they are applying for.

“What you need to do is make sure that you play the game and follow the rules and give the panel what they need to get you through the process.”

The APS Recruitment Game is a practical guide designed to help applicants better understand recruitment expectations within the Australian Public Service and communicate their experience with greater clarity and confidence.

Interview broadcast on ABC Radio Canberra Drive with Alice Matthews, 11 May 2026.